{"id":476,"date":"2003-08-19T08:30:15","date_gmt":"2003-08-19T12:30:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/wordpress.cephas.net\/?p=476"},"modified":"2003-08-19T08:30:15","modified_gmt":"2003-08-19T12:30:15","slug":"re-cfmx-java-jock-jihad","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cephas.net\/blog\/2003\/08\/19\/re-cfmx-java-jock-jihad\/","title":{"rendered":"re: CFMX Java-jock jihad"},"content":{"rendered":"

Geoff makes a couple blanket statements in his post<\/a> about how the Java world doesn’t understand CFMX. I don’t agree with a couple of them:<\/p>\n

· ColdFusion remains the only answer to making Java accessible to a mass of non comp-sci web developers <\/i> — I don’t have a computer science degree, neither do 3 of the other 4 developers at Mindseye<\/a> (all of whom have written Java applications and all of who have spoken at DevCon) and I’ve created a couple sites using Java & JSP technology so to say that non comp-sci web developers can’t understand Java is patently incorrect. I think it also bears mentioning that Java is considered by some to be a language for the masses<\/a>:<\/p>\n

“The advantages of Java is that it easily serves as a lingua franca – everyone can read a Java program and understand what is going on…<\/i>“, <\/p>\n

· …most Java developers fail to see where CFMX fits into their world of programming… <\/i> — Why should they care? There are a number of other scripting languages that work with Java, PHP being one of them. Java developers have enough to worry about… they’re too busy choosing between web frameworks (struts<\/a>, tapestry<\/a>, webwork2<\/a>), persistence models (obj<\/a>, castor<\/a>, jdo<\/a>..) and templating mechanisms (velocity<\/a>, cocoon<\/a>..). It’s commonly mentioned\/demonstrated that ColdFusion is easy by showing how few lines it takes to query a database, but has anyone ever asked an enterprise Java developer how many queries they put into a JSP? . <\/p>\n

With that said, I think that Geoff has the right attitude, starting a “.. post-positive campaign highlighting CFMX\/Java symbiosis” is a great starting point. Go one step further though. Build a J2EE application, learn Struts, use OJB. Geoff claims that J2EE people don’t understand CFMX. How well do CFMX people understand J2EE?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Geoff makes a couple blanket statements in his post about how the Java world doesn’t understand CFMX. I don’t agree with a couple of them: · ColdFusion remains the only answer to making Java accessible to a mass of non comp-sci web developers — I don’t have a computer science degree, neither do 3 of … Continue reading re: CFMX Java-jock jihad<\/span> →<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[7,3,2],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/cephas.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/476"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/cephas.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/cephas.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cephas.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cephas.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=476"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/cephas.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/476\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/cephas.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=476"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cephas.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=476"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cephas.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=476"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}